We just returned from our visit with Ted and Pam. Very nice people. We met the dogs: Tessa, Madi and Pete. We like them all, a lot. They're from Idaho. They've been here two years and plan on staying until... they can't anymore. They're big golfers, so maybe I'll tag along some time. I think we're going to be fine with them. We just stayed for a couple of hours. Told them next time it's at "our house."